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Generation 9 Starters Poll - Scarlet and Violet.

Initial response shortly after Gen 9 reveal.

Plant Pokemon:

In Generations 1 and 2, all plant Pokemon were actually plants, except for the Plant starter Pokemon. So they were all flowers and trees, with some viney bushes.

Then, in Generation 3, came the 1st non-starter Plant Pokemon that is an animal. That was Tropius. (This is by Pokedex number.). Tropius is a dinosaur, and has bananas hanging from its neck.

Then, in future generations, pretty much half of plant Pokemon were animals. We now have animals such as goats (Gen 6), the 1st insect being a mantis (Gen 7).

The 1sts:

-The 1st plant to not be a Plant type, that is single-elemented, be the Flabebe/Florges/Floette line, that are Fairy types, and flowers.
-The 1st plant to not be a Plant type, that is double-elemented, be the Glimmet/Glimmora line, that are Rock/Poison types, and flower/flower-like.

-However, Sudowoodo from Gen 2 is like a tree made of rock, but some debate if it even is a tree. Some debate it is just shaped like a tree, but it can learn Plant moves. If you consider Sudowoodo to actually be a rocky tree, then it is the 1st tree (and therefore 1st plant) that is not a Plant type, of single-element.

Primary Plant pokemon that do not have any plant or fungi features: Kartana and Iron Leaves (steel painted green). For 2ndary Plant Pokemon, there is Rotom-mow.

Water Pokemon:

Pretty much all Water Pokemon were aquatic animals like fish, including some mammals that just swim in water like beavers.

-The 1st fish Pokemon that is not a Water type, happened as late as Gen 9, Chi-Yu, a Dark/Fire type. It is double-typing, but no fish of single-typing, however.
-The 1st whale Pokemon that is not a Water type, also happened in Gen 9, Cetoddle/Cetitan line, which are Ice types.

Rock Pokemon:

Pretty much all Rock Pokemon were rocks. The 1st Rock pokemon that is pure animal can be in Gen 5, the rocky birds, and Terrakion. Gen 7 created the 1st dog/wolf that are rocky.

Pokemon has yet to create rock Pokemon that are not Rock types.

Ghost Pokemon:

Pretty much all early Ghost Pokemon were floating ghosts or puppets. The 1st Ghost pokemon that appears to be an animal be in Gen 7, Oricorio a bird, and Gen 8 Spectrier, a horse. And we know Gen 6 produces the 1st Ghost pokemon that were plants: a 2-stage tree Pokemon and a 2-stage pumpkin that evolves into a jack-o-lantern.

If there ever is a ghost Pokemon that is not of Ghost type, that could be Darkrai, but only in the cartoons. In the video games, it appears to be completely physical.

Trivia - 3-stage evolution Pokemon.

The 1st stage Pokemon with the highest bst (base stat total) be Porygon, at 395. Then Magby 365, Elekid 360, Rhyhorn 345, and Pawniard 340.

For 2-stage, highest bst for fully evolved is

Palafin 650.
Melmetal at 600.
Silvally 570
Archeops, at 567.
Arcanine, 555.
Volcarona, Urshifu, Gholdengo, 550.

3-stage:

(Legendary Solgaleo and Lunala) 680.
Slaking, 670.
Pseudos.
Florges, 555.
Ursaluna, Kingambit, 550.

Fruits and Vegetables:

These are what we have for fruits and vegetable Pokemon:

Fruit:

Cherry (Cherubi, Gen 4, but evolves into a flower), apple (Bounsweet family, Gen 7), apple (Applin, Gen 8). As well as a pumpkin from Gen 6.

Vegetable:

Onion (Gen 2, but of 2ndary Plant typing), chilli pepper (Gen 9 Scovillain, but is technically considered to be a berry).

While Pokemon may have flowers and trees that are not Plant types, they have yet to create fruits and vegetables that are not Plant types.

Trivia - 4x weakness:

These are all the elements that have 2 4x weaknesses.

Bug/Grass
Rock/Ground and Ground/Rock
Fire/Rock and Rock/Fire
Steel/Rock and Rock/Steel
Rock/Ice
Psychic/Ghost
Ice/Bug

Elements with 3 4x resistances.

-Fire/Water.
-Poison/Fire.
-Grass/Dragon.
-Steel/Poison.

-Fire/Steel has 5 4x resistances.

Objects:

These are the 1st object Pokemon.

Balloon 423
Bell 433
Candle 607
Sword 679
Key chain 707
Jewelry 719
Sand castle 770
Anchor 781
Wires 796
Space shuttle 797
Cup --> teapot 854 - 855
Christmas orb 100
Engine 965

Microwave / washer / lawn mover / refrigerator / fan 479

Related:

DNA 386
Cake 869
Toy penguin 991

#999 is almost a coin chest. (The eyes are not on the chest, so I don't consider it a coin chest.).

Pokemon that would have violated the Eviolite:

Ursaring, Stantler, Primeape, Girafarig, Dunsparce, and Bisharp.

Of these 6, Dunspace's evolution is the only 1 where it evolved from a single-elemented Pokemon that did not change to another element or dual-typing.

Then, confirms Duraludon.

Pokemon with lower base stats, but uber-abilities:

Medicham 308.
Araquanid 454.

Countdown to Pokemon #1231.

Every date of year can be associated with a Pokemons pokedex #. So Jan. 1 = 01/01 = #0101 = Electrode.

So Dec. 31 = 12/31 = #1231.

1998 | 1996	Gen. 1	To Jan. 31
2000 | 1999	Gen. 2	To Feb. 29
2003 | 2002	Gen. 3	To March 31
2007 | 2006	Gen. 4	To April 30
2011 | 2010	Gen. 5	To June 30
2013, 10/12	Gen. 6	To July 21
2016, 11/18	Gen. 7	To Aug. 2
2017, 11/17	Gen. 7b	To Aug. 7
2019, 11/15	Gen. 8	To Aug. 31
2022, 01/28	Gen. 8d	To Sept. 5
2022, 11/18	Gen. 9	To Oct. 10
2023, 9/12-13	Gen. 9c	To Oct. 17
2023, 12/13-14	Gen. 9d	To Oct. 25

Pokemon originally intended for earlier generations.

-Shellos and Gastrodon are confirmed to originally be intended for Generation 3, but debuted in Generation 4.

It should be noted that Generation 1 originally planned to have 200 Pokemon, and Generation 2 300 Pokemon, but were both reduced due to cartridge limitations.

There are some half-examples.

-A Pokemon that is a goat with horns, appears to be halfway Sawsbuck, then Gogoat.
-A turtle that was halfway between Carrascota and Drednaw.

Pokemon originally intended for a different element.

-Umbreon was originally intended to be Poison. See below paragraph for a complete list from Gen 2.
-The Frillish line was intended to be pure Water by their designer, but other GameFreak supervisors changed it to Water/Ghost, against the designers wishes.
-Stunfisk was originally intended to be Water/Electric, both changed due to balancing reasons.
-Petilil and Lilligant were originally intended to be 3-stage evolution.

May 2018 leak: Pokemon 1997 Spaceworld Demo.

Almost nothing was known about this 3-day event, but on May 26, 2018, an anonymous user uploaded ROM files of the demo. There, tons of Pokemon have been edited since. For example, Tangela was intended to have both a pre-evolution and evolution (and both green-colored), Farfetch'd was intended to have an evolution, albeit Normal/Flying and feminine-looking, Lickitung, and Qwilfish (being pure Water) also intended to have an evolution that is pure Water, Paras and Doduo were intended to have a pre-evolution, as well as Ponyta as pure Normal.

Type changes: Hoothoot and Noctowl was originally intended to be pure Flying, Sunflora was originally intended to be Grass/Psychic and without a pre-evolution. Girafarig was originally intended to be Dark/Normal, and with a pre-evolution. Umbreon was originally intended to be Poison. Bellossom was originally intended to be Grass/Poison (as well as another evolution of Weepinbell). Delibird was originally intended to be Water/Ice. Scizor was originally intended to be Bug/Flying, and green colored. Kingdra was intended to be Dragon/Water instead of Water/Dragon, Skarmory Flying/Steel instead of Steel/Flying. Ho-oh pure Flying. Snubbull was intended to be Psychic, and without an evolution. Quagsire was intended to be pure Water, and without a pre-evolution.

April 2020 leak:

A leaked copy of the source code for Pokemon Blue was released on the Internet in osrc.zip. Since the front sprites were finalized, only the backsprites were left untouched. There, we saw Pokemon that didn't make into the original 151. Of related Pokemon are:

-A blue Psyduck looking Pokemon that was to be between Psyduck and Golduck, levels 22 to 33, so that was originally intended to be 3-stage.
-A pre-evolution for Zubat.
-An evolution for Marowak where it holds a similar-baby Cubone. Its index number was directly after Marowak's index number.
-An evolution for Raichu.
-Vulpix, Meowth, Goldeen, and Ponyta had pre-evolutions but those were also cut again in Gen II.
-There was a standalone cactus and shark/swordfish Pokemon that may have led to Cactus and Sharpedo.

Trivia.

According to Bulbapedia, the only Pokemon created by villainous teams are Mewtwo (by Team Rocket) and Genesect (by Team Plasma). As in, genetically modified or altered. Well, 1 can say the same for Porygon2 and possibly Team Rocket, as Silph Co. is credited for creating the Up-grade needed to evolve Porygon. Although there is no data that says the Dubious Disc was created by Team Galactic, the Dubious Disc was 1st found in Sinnoh, as well as Team Galactic's lab in Platinum, which can suggest Team Galactic created the Dubious Disc.

What are some signature Pokemon scenarios?

-In Generation 4, in a haunted house, there's a 2nd floor room with a haunted TV, where an electrical Ghost pokemon can be found behind it.
-In Generation 5, in an underground sand castle (or dungeon), there's a room for a powerful Fire butterfly waiting (Bug/Fire type).

These are it for non-legendary and non-mythical Pokemon. However, in Generation 1, there is a room on the roof of a building where there is a pokeball with an Eevee in it, that is free for take, and this was repeated 2 more times with Steven's Beldum and Leon's Charmander.

How much is Gholdengo worth?

A Gholdengo is made of 1,000 gold coins. Generation 9 debuted fall 2022, where the value of gold was below $2000 per troy oz, though it has surpassed. Because Gholdengo weighs exactly 30.0 kg, each golden coin is exactly 1/1000th of its weight and value. 30 kg = 30,000 g.

1 troy oz = 31.1 grams, so $2000 dollars.

1 gold coin of Gholdengo = 30 g = $1927.91.
With Gholdengo's weight, that is $1.927 million.

Of course, this is if gold is exactly $2000/troy oz, and the price of gold changes. Scarlet/Violet debuted Nov. 18, 2022, where price of gold was less than $1800, but hit $2200 in March 2024. Gold 1st hit $2000 in Oct. 2023, which has stabilized until March 2024.